Jerry Falwell Dies, at 73, found unconscious in office Options

[GandhiRooney]

When I left home earlier, the news said Mr. Falwell was in gravely ill condition after being found unconscious in his office at Liberty University. Now this story is on the web:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070515/ap_on_...s/jerry_falwell

[MMFAN]

So sad for his family. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) This was a man that stood up for what he believed... he wasn't perfect by any means , but at least he stood for something. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[Chris]

What a sad day. Sorry for his family, but I'm not crying by any means.

[DaynaJones]

Isn't he the guy who said the purple teletubby was gay ??

[Allyopps]

Yes but he did a lot more then that. That is just what people remember.

[Tom in Virginia]

Isn't he the guy who said the purple teletubby was gay ??

It wasn't? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Cordially,

Tom

[Derek]

Didn't he once say somthing about how that gay and other immoral people caused 9-11 attacks since God punished the United States for our sins? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

[DSgamby]

Didn't he once say somthing about how that gay and other immoral people caused 9-11 attacks since God punished the United States for our sins? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

among other things.

Many of his quotes can be found at wikipedia's quote site
and at wikipedia's site on him

[Tom in Virginia]

Didn't he once say somthing about how that gay and other immoral people caused 9-11 attacks since God punished the United States for our sins? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Yeah, something like that. He took a lot of heat, explained more later, and then apologized. I don't think he said exactly that though. As I recall, he said that we as a nation cannot really expect God to answer our prayers and come to our aid, living the permissive lifestyles that we do.

But of course, he said it on 9/12, and as Dennis Miller pointed out recently after the VT shootings, when something bad happens, he gives everyone a pass for about a week, because we will all run to our safe corners, falling back on whaat we know best and what makes us feel better, not realizing in the daze that in the long term it may not make good sense. I think that's what Dr. Falwell was doing that day, and I give him a pass too.

Cordially,
Tom

[Rossum1889]

A sad time for his family, but I am not going to lose sleep over it. I am more upset about Martin Luther King Jrs daughter, passed away today at the age of 51. Very sad.

[Chris]

Yes but he did a lot more then that. That is just what people remember.

A lot more ignorant and intolerant things, that's for sure.

What's sorta ironic...Bill Nye came to speak at OSU on Monday and he showed a clip of himself going up against Falwell on some morning news show. Fallwell really didn't know what he was talking about at all.

[Randy 22]

I was never a big fan of Falwell, but I have found a bit sad the glee some people have expressed over his death (not here, I want to add). Some web sites I visit have been having a party over his death which I find to be incredibly hateful and ugly.
Ironically, one of Falwell's great antagonists, Larry Flynt, had a more humane reaction. He was quoted as saying that while he "hated" what Falwell stood for, he didn't question his sincerity and regarded him to be a friend.

[Allyopps]

A lot more ignorant and intolerant things, that's for sure.

What's sorta ironic...Bill Nye came to speak at OSU on Monday and he showed a clip of himself going up against Falwell on some morning news show. Fallwell really didn't know what he was talking about at all.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Intelligent answer

[Chris]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Intelligent answer

Yours too.

[Allyopps]

Thanks

[Tom in Virginia]

Why is speaking up about one's deeply held, thoroughly considered and studied beliefs considered ignorant or intolerant?
If I rear my kids to understand that drugs, adultery, pornography, premarital sex and homosexuality are wrong, to be avoided at all costs, and bad for society as a whole, and further that they should stand strong in the face of public and peer pressure telling them otherwise, is that ignorant or intolerant?

Calling it such is simply an attempt to avoid the debate by silencing opposing viewpoints via name calling. Hollywood did this on a much larger scale yet more insidiously during the Nixon administration with the creation of the Archie Bunker caricature: better shut up or they'll think you're an Archie Bunker. Insidious, but it worked. Falwell stood up to that and wasn't ashamed. Nothing intolerant or ignorant about it.

Cordially,

Tom

[Chris]

When your beliefs spread hatred for anyone who isn't like you, that's intolerant. It's one thing to have beliefs, however narrow-minded, but to say some of the things he has is going way too far. Here are a few statements he made throughout his lifetime:

On the 9/11 attacks: “The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the Pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say, ‘You helped this happen.’"

On Islam: "I think Mohammed was a terrorist. I read enough of the history of his life, written by both Muslims and non-Muslims, that he was a violent man, a man of war."

On Jews: "In my opinion, the Antichrist will be a counterfeit of the true Christ, which means that he will be male and Jewish, since Jesus was male and Jewish."

On AIDS: "AIDS is the wrath of a just God against homosexuals."

On feminists: "I listen to feminists and all these radical gals. ... These women just need a man in the house. That's all they need. Most of the feminists need a man to tell them what time of day it is and to lead them home. And they blew it and they're mad at all men. Feminists hate men. They're sexist. They hate men; that's their problem."

On public education: "I hope I live to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we won't have any public schools. The churches will have taken them over again, and Christians will be running them."

On the separation of church and state: "There is no separation of church and state."

On Martin Luther King Jr.: "I must personally say that I do question the sincerity and nonviolent intentions of some civil rights leaders such as Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Mr. James Farmer, and others, who are known to have left-wing associations."

[Rossum1889]

I don't know if I am understand it your comment right Tom, but if you are saying that you are teaching your kids that homosexuality is wrong, I have to say while I respect your views I do not agree with that. Drugs, adultery, okay that is understandable but not the homosexuality thing. I thought God created everyone equally. Aren't we supposed to love and accept everyone for who they are? The whole concept that gay people are not as equal as we are or do not deserve the same rights is ridiculous. They are human beings. It's like we are back in the 60's when black people were hated and discriminated against. It is the same thing against gay people. While I don't understand why they are gay, I don't disrespect them for it. That is what makes them happy, hooray for them! Everyone says we need to make the world a better place, it is not going to happen if we don't accept certain people. I could not imagine being a gay person and having parents who think that if you are gay you are a living moral sin. When I have kids, if they are gay I would not love them one bit less. I would not teach them that what they are doing or they way they are living is wrong. Everyone is here for a reason, and people who denounce some people for what their sexual preference is, that is morally irresponsible. And there is nothing intolerant or ignorant about that.

This post has been edited by Rossum1889: May 17 2007, 02:18 PM

[DSgamby]

When your beliefs spread hatred for anyone who isn't like you, that's intolerant. It's one thing to have beliefs, however narrow-minded, but to say some of the things he has is going way too far. Here are a few statements he made throughout his lifetime:

He also called the Civil Rights Movement the Civil Wrongs Movement.

[Chappy]

I guess the good lord has a little different way of saying happy anniversary. 15 . 51